We know this huge shark preyed on large whales, and Livyatan would have had to come to the surface for air. Megalodon teeth=7 inches. As long as megalodons hide isn’t over 13 inches long then Livy should be able to bite through its back. leviathan it has more tough body and better brain so it will bite of megs gills. It would be a close fight as they are the same size and preyed on similarly sized and in some cases the same animals. Megalodon has a vastly more powerful bite force but shorter teeth. I graduated in 2007 with a project studying how permafrost, that´s frozen soil, is reacting to the more. livyatan is a new discovered species and most will judje it because Oh its a whale whales are gentle. 2. the leviathan has harder teeth just saying but it is true. Modern sperm whales are slow in order to conserve energy to hunt in the deep. Either way, thanks to these two monsters the prehistoric ocean was a very dangerous place. This happens about 20 mins after shark is spawned. It is used in crafting many aquatic items, typically in conjunction with Depth Cells and Tenebris. Ancient Megalodon for Aator. Researchers believe the shifting ocean conditions may have played a part in the extinction of these massive predators, either influencing the creatures directly or altering their food supply. The only plausible fight in this situation is if the Megalodon is going for a Livyatan calf and the adult females are trying to drive it off. Humpback whales have shown empathy for other species and actually save other animals from orcas. Picture a Great White Shark, except three times as large, and you get some idea of what Megalodon would have been like. but if meg bites first, it will kill livyatan. That’s how whales escape orcas. However, many other whales are only averagely intelligent for mammals and not much more intelligent than great whites. In case one, the first attack of the megalodon could be fatal for any type of cetacean, but not in the case of lyviathan or sperm whale because of its layer of skin and fat reducing the impact. Livyatan can attack with its tail, head and teeth as well as stun the meg. According to this system, fin, blue and minke whales intelligence is indicated to be higher than that of bottlenose dolphins(who are only considered extremely intelligent cause they were studied on more than other animals) and only surpassed by orcas, pilot whales, and of course humans. People need to stop overestimating predators and realize that they need uncivilized and dishonorable tactics like stealth in order to kill a single deer. livayatan would win because it has the biggest teeth of all animals and intelligent than all ocean predator. So 50 50.But I love cetaceans more so I bet my money on leviathan, meg and leviathan is same size and weight. Depends who gets a bite in first. Before the eq system, we thought brain size=intelligence. The leviathan is very bulky and is more likely to survive a seriour injury than the megalodon. Megalodon for me. WRONG ANSWER. Megalodon wins this in a very close and brutal match! Some humpback whales do not do this so it isn’t instinctual. The Prehistoric sperm whale Livayatan would have destroyed megalodon with tose ferocious huge teeth. Everyone is biased towards the meglodon because of the human's natural fear of sharks. leviathan is big brain. "56 km / h": you take it from the great white shark and you stick it directly to the megalodon. Intellegence however is not enough to overcome dealdy tactics and stealth. Nice big articulated bivalve – Pholadomya fidiculá Coral Lovely piece of Coral showing polyps Echinoid probably a Clypeus Ploti Echinoid – possibly a Nucleolites sp Gastropod- Bactroptyxis bacillus Gastropod – Purpuroidea morrisea Sharks have no true bones, only cartilage. Swallow - A single target 14k DoT with stun. Although Livayatan was a dangerous bounty, Megalodon preyed on similar whales regularly. The leviathans tooth size won't do anything as it just pierces the prey a little bit deeper. Livyatan wins but both animals are equally awesome. The reason Livyatan would win wasn’t because of its intelligence or agility but because of its blubber and ram. Still, at over 60 feet long and perhaps weighing as much as 100 tons it was the biggest and most dangerous shark that ever lived. although shark can't do anything when they are flipped over but remember, Meg is way weighter than leviathan, so leviathan has no chance to flip Meg over before it ripped in piece by Megalodon. We must therefore forget the image of the megalodon that kills the livyathan have a jaw. Sharks most impressive prey would be the humpback whale but it was only 19 ft and unhealthy and tangled and injured by a fishing net and it was two sharks so im pretty sure that’s enough to prove it was a circumstantial victory. The great white shark often measures more than 19 feet (or 6 meters) in length. So, depending on the circumstances, it’s easy to see each of these monsters getting the better of the other. I say its 50/50 who knows? The leviathan’s bite force is mike tyson’s punch while the megalodon’s is mikes bite. As the two species are not closely related, the teeth - body size relationship of C. carcharias alone can't be used to reconstruct the body size of the extinct relative. Thresher sharks are believed to be a distant relative of the massive megalodon, a prehistoric sea monster that could grow up to 18 metres in length and resembled a supersized great white shark. There are many animals that could beat megalodon. Megalodon was the biggest shark that ever swam in the oceans of this world, and had the strongest bite force of any known animal. Been trying for days, I 'ave, to get 'im to make some sense about this megalodon creature 'e keeps prattling on about. A orca not orcas can kill any great white it runs into and has time after time so if it favors the killer whale like some other sites have said it would be no different, Livyatan is a sperm whale megalodon is a shark eatimg whale megalodon sometimes wins but livyatan sometimes wins too. Its superior bite force, speed and strength was what gave it the edge in its dangerous ocean world against all kinds of other apex predators, including large and dangerous whales. The megalodon had a cruising speed higher than the great white shark (I take this example, because the great white is one of the benchmarks used for the study of the size of megalodon but it could be that it is more crape and therefore slower), which is normal (many large species on a speed of movement (not peak) greater than a similar smaller species), but its top speed was not faster than that of the great white shark. it will probably bite off megs gills and meg wil be a dead fish... leviathan has 2 times bigger teeth and its smarter. Most likely Livyatan and Megalodon avoided each other. The sperm whale and Livy are similarly sized so we can assume they have the same thickness. A genus of ancient whale called Cetotherium would have been a target for both Megalodon and Livyatan. 3. No study above, but if we take the example of the mako shark and the great white shark with a similar morphology, on realizes that the great white, despite a higher cruising speed is slower in top speed and c 'is an observation that can be made on all sharks of the same morphology and on all animals with low endurance (ex: feline) probably due to a weight / expense factor. With interests in science and nature, I explores topics from a unique and sometimes controversial perspective. Dolphins, including large dolphins like killer whales and pilot whales that confusingly have the word "whale" in their English names, are highly intelligent. Sharks are best. :) ^-^ and meg is not smart so yeah. Studying therefore old maps, photographs and reports, I became interested in the history of geology and how early geologists figured out how earth works, blogging about it in my spare time. So Livyatan and cachalot aren’t the only cetaceans who wouldn’t die in one bite from the megalodon. Megalodon bit the tales and fins of its prey instead of biting it directly because it can’t penetrate its blubber. Megalodon is so overrated some people have even claimed that it is 75 ft and 100 tons. During the Miocene Epoch, some 13 million years ago, they competed for the same food and the same turf. Megalodon has a vastly more powerful bite force but shorter teeth. Once 9 sperm whales fought slightly over thirty orcas(the most intelligent non human animals), the orcas were only able to kill one before being forced to flee despite outnumbering their adversaries by a factor of 3. "50 km / h": Livyathan's speed was never estimated, we can just deduce it and +50 km / h is quite likely. But why did these monsters die off when other sea creatures of the same time flourished? SW corner of Lake Rathe. The single decisive factor in such a contest is the brain-and the superior intelligence that goes with it. But what about in a head-to-head encounter? The Livyatan would win because the Meg went extinct while the sperm whales still exist. Most likely Livyatan and Megalodon avoided each other. get_qglobals (e. other); if (e. message: findi (" elder spirit sent me ") and qglobals[" shaman_epic "] == " 1 ") then: e. self: Say (" Aye, well then. Growing to nearly 60 feet long and weighing up to 50 tons, this was a whale to be reckoned with. According to the eq system caribou are smarter than pigs and elephants, monkeys are smarter than orangutans, wildebeest are smarter than hippos and pigs/warthogs, dolphins=1% less than humans and whales=cows. eq. But if the meg somehow bit the livyatan first its odds of winning would probably drastically increase. Yes, if they had the teeth of Livyatan, then they probably would, but only because they're much bigger than great whites. Indeed, although sharp, the megalodon teeth are not efficient enough to shear its prey if it has a skin of this order there, for that, it would need teeth of the same structure as that of a tiger shark or a Greenland shark, which is not the case. When I knew that the livyathan's skin layer, being a close cousin of the sperm whale, was very thick, all my opinion concerning the victory of the megalodon disappeared. Great Whites can be considered prey of Orca Whales, even though I believe that a Great White could we in s fight against an Orca if it's alone. I just absolutly love how everyone declares megalodon winner solely because of its bite force. Blue whales have endured hours worth’s of bites from pods of 20+ orcas and still managed to escape, so they must be pretty durable. A. Burnham Shute [Public domain], via Wikimedia Commons. Livyatan attacks with its tail using blunt force like a cane, club or hammer. I think the whale would win because the whale has bigger teeth so the teeth can just sink in. 1) Go to Fungus Grove and locate Lupot Nukla (+655, +530). I'd say the Megalodon sometimes manages to get a calf before being driven off and sometimes doesn't but rarely kills an adult female and is rarely killed by the pod of adult females. But don’t count Livyatan out. DISCUSSIONS. The female Megalodon has the size advantage, but the female Livyatans live in a pod. Sperm whales have been known to kill giant and colossal squid and are not scavenging them because there are marks on cachlots(sperm whales) from the battle. Whales are smarter because they can communicate and socialize better than sharks but not because they can "hunt better" and the same goes for dolphins. Some have claimed that whales are only slightly smarter than sharks and aren’t as intelligent as actual exceptionally intelligent animals like dolphins. The smaller male Megalodons were 10.5-14.3 m long and weighed 12.6-33.9 tonnes, i.e. They said megalodon because it had a stronger bite force and more robust body so If livytan rammed megalodon could endure the hit and I'm a smart biologist man so believe me so megalodon win 51 % of the time livyatan 49% of the time. B) newborn animal, C) juvenile and D) adult. Larger whales were on the menu too, including ancient relatives of the massive Blue Whale. For comparison, I've found encephalization quotient values of 2.2-2.5 for chimpanzees, 2.57-3.3 for orcas, various values ranging from 4.14 to 5.31 for bottlenose dolphins and 7.4-7.8 for humans. plus the livyatan was about the same size as the megalodon. The Megalodon will charge towards the leviathan and if the leviathan is to slow to react, the megalodon gets a big chomp, however, if it is, the Megalodon will shoot right past it. Its teeth were almost twice the size of Megalodon’s, and if it was like whales of today it was a more agile swimmer. Neither sperm whales nor great white shark sharks are apex predators as both are preyed on by orcas. Despite everything, the damage will be present on the surface, which will weaken the animal. But the primary food source for both was marine mammals. Whales are pretty fast too. But Livyatan May have won. A single orca would be capable of killing or at least contending with a fully grown female(females are actually bigger unlike in tooth whales)great white shark. I think its kind of like the collossal squid vs sperm whale kinda thing. Livyatan Melvillei is a fairly recent discovery in the world of paleontology, first described back in 2008. Like Livyatan, Megalodon was a surface hunter, most likely prowling the coasts similar to the way a Great White hunts. Orcas hunt in pods, are bigger, stronger, faster and way more intelligence, not that intelligence matters because that's like saying a physicist could beat up a trained MMA fighter. The Megalodon is not necessarily a fast predator, but just an ambush. It is after hours of studying that I have come to this conclusion. To go along with its 7-inch serrated teeth, it had the strongest bite force of any animal ever known and was much more powerful than even the biggest dinosaurs. The eq system is ridiculous and whales are just as intelligent as dolphins. Considering megalodon preferred smaller whales, it is likely it would be difficult for it to catch the greater whale species. It was smarter, bigger, and that's not to mention the Livyatan's tooth size (over a FOOT long). I think Leviathan wins due to present day evidence of similar interactions between great whites and orcas. Report # SMP-AM-FW2020-0820 So who was king of the ancient ocean, the true apex predator of the Miocene? Was it Livyatan? Cetaceans rival apes and elephants in intelligence, and while sharks are smart for fish, they still are less intelligent than Livyatan, but in a direct fight with no prep, intelligence doesn’t really help as if they could actually use all their intelligence in this hypothetical situation then the loser would anticipate who would win and flee. plus the megalodon had hard skin and it would have been hard for a Livyatan to penetrate it. but most of the time the winner goes to livyatan just because it can most likely 1. dive a few hundred meters deeper due to thick blubber .2 the livyatan would not give the un-intelligent megalodon time to think out its attack .3 livyatan likely had an upper hand on different ways to intercept the attack like for example the megalodon is closer to the surface so the livyatan will be smart and have time to use what ever current advantage it has over the megalodon. And no matter what we comparing, Meg's size, weight, bite force, and the ability to settle in different situations... Meg is always better than the leviathan. Livyatan win the livyatan is a killer whale and the megalodon a greate white shark a killer whale os stornger, I think Livyatan Melvillei will win because they were so huge and teeth are bigger than megalodon and they were more intelligent than megalodon so 100% Livyatan Melvillei win this battle, Leviathan wins... Just like killer whales and large sharks today, I belive the Levyathan wins because we don't know if I'd lived in pods, so if it did megalodon would become lunch, Megalodon was not built like a normal shark and was more robust than the whale so o voted megalodon, megalodon wins the match pretty easy had alot more teeth, kinda 15-18 cm long it had 276 teeth and strongest bite force of al, animals ever lived 41.000 pounds that around 19 tons but the livyatan whale had twice bigger teeth megalodon was faster with 70 kmh and megalodon also had a thick body so it can take a hit mabye megalodon would go for his flippers first so -1 flipper almost impossible to run from megalodon and he also need to breath he need to go up to breath so it would drown and megalodon had a good lunch in my opinion :}. so the leviathan wins it has brain proper bones and hedbut skills. Reports of the human 's ancient megalodon eq fear of sharks the top predator of the world paleontology. 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